Re: Will this be useful?

[James N Rose <***>]

Yes, it will be useful.  Because relationships
will be discovered that are currently unknown
or unspecified.  And those relations will help
achieved some measure of correspondence even if
not perfect complete mapping.


Take a look at some of today's cinema. Think
of what OSU is doing as a science version of 
anime and computer graphic movies.

A developed set of math equations -is- able
to mimic to satisfactory degree, observed
gross scale natural world behaviors.

The demanding entertainment-public spends 
good money on not-exact replications and
analogues.  Roadrunner and Coyote events
aren't reality, but the general relations
are close enough that we identify useful
relational phenomena there and appreciate
the dis-reality and the close-enough to 
reality.

In the recent willie wonka (johhny depp)
movie, my daughter and I remarked that the 
German boy character -- at some moments
we couldn't tell if he was a live actor or
a CG product.  The lines blurred.  It was
weird.


Point being ... the math being looked for 
IS -NOT- EXPECTED TO MAP the whole body
of chemistry and metabolisms going on, but
to just better-sufficiently map the net
observed behaviors.  The "surface" as it were,
of events.

Fractal math was a 'new math' of this sort, and
in fact is the 'substance' the CG animation is
made of.

Developing a 'newer math' is not so much to ask for
or anticipate achieving.  

They aren't going after (yet) a math to completely
replicate existence.  

Which, if you carry it to extreme analysis, would have
to be a math more complete than existence.

At some extreme state of modeling, the 'model' would have
to include itself - the act of modeling being performed -
with exact depiction of all its behaviors choices and outcomes.
The ultimate Urobos.  And more so.  Because the system would 
be both completely open -and- completely closed - simultaneously.

An outside-the-system perspective, achieved in performance while
residing totally inside the system.

So in some final-analysis, all natural systems are safe from being
'replicated' perfectly, even if to a great extent of they -will-
be able to be 'described' .. "perfectly" (sic) ... ie, 
sufficiently/utilely .. well.  


Jamie
30 Nov 2005