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Design vs. Darwin - aside line
- From: James N Rose <***>
- Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:08:27 -0800
Thank you Judith for reminding us to actively
do other things than post to the list - to
truly spend time on focussed thankfulness today.
This man does that every day .. its my continued
mantra in spirit. So I am still going to post today.
I owe John a detailed next-voice in this conversation,
.. saving that for another writing session later.
Something else just came to mind to verbalize, that may
be a rehash of 'obviates' but I'd like to write about it
anyway.
As I sat here typing this morning, with my cursor backed
up a few lines and over to the far right, my eye spotted
a typo - next line down and over to the far left. As I began
to back-space on the line I was in - planning to get atop
the typo then down arrow to the location - I realized that I
was taking the 'long way' to get from one spot to the next.
What on a 2D 'obvious' flat plane was effectively the
'shortest "distance"' in immediate measurables, was really
-longer- than if I had forward keyed and let the cursor wrap
around and drop to the typo location - say, 10 units of distance
versus 30 the first way.
And what then flitted in thought was that 'yes, of course,
potentials and connections that aren't in immediate display
may generally be present, so that the shortest 'distance'
between two items may not be the first impressioned
'measurable'.
No great revelation there. pretty well known already.
But sure and away the more typical of life's situations
than habituated thought let's us think on or use actively
every day.
Intellectualizing about modelled versus natural is analogue
to that. A 'modelled world' being patterns of what's in the
kitbag of recognized phenomena, and the natural world being
inclusive of all the remaining real yet not known/specified
phenoms and relations. That would be: 'all', without exception.
Which, in and of itself presents an omnivorous problem. Just as
Cantor threw open wide the door to MANY infinities and transfinite
relations - a doorway which few have ventured through to explore,
and none have ever laid claim to correlating with extant real
phenomena - we are at tranfinities's sibling threshhold.
When 'causes' are considered vis a vis -these- arenas of relations,
what results is: either fundamentalist/reductionist bovine-like
rechewing of concepts-cuds, or, the challenge of
braving wholely uncharted language and relations terrain -
all the while trying to stay tether (and -relevant-) to the
world(s) that our minds are familiar with from up-to-this-moment
experience and conscious alert identification (as in: alert dreaming;
actively aware of being aware while actioning awareness mentally and
behavior-wise).
This is the 'many-bodied problem' taken to outrageous limits.
At the moment we seem stuck at intuitive appreciation. Its a new
but sort of comfortable way-station to be at: at least we have a
sense of knowing the realm of 'what we don't know'.
John feels unsatisfied with this situation and I know I do too.
And here is where I know that the ideas we all keep prompting
one another with are valuable. Because we bring our individual
concepts priorities to the conversation and keeping them
forefront. One person prioritizing sensibilities, another
prioritizing potential mechanisms, another prioritizing
devotion to the overarching vision of the nature of
what we seek and the new-memes needed required in order
to stay true to the new vision.
I'm probably going overboard with this extreme dissection,
but I do it mindfully yet cautiously, so as not to
replicate reductionist errors once again; or get accused of
it.
"Clear analysis" will always and unavoidably include
reductionist 'choices'. The universe built us to think/be
that way. So, we are true to the qualia it anticipated,
and shouldn't self berate ourselves for being true to
the nature of our being. We're strying to stretch those
qualia and expand our capacities and refine and better
our knowings. And we'll use what we've developed,
for better or worse.
It took a long time for aquatics to learn new body forms
and explore being atmospherics and terrans.
We are chrysallines. And we'll use/be what we are until
the inner knowledge resident in our soma-structure
transforms us into different structures - with different
capacities for ideation and realization ... and expression.
And all our 'will' to transform takes back seat to the
inner truths and pacings of transformation that we are
as well - our chemistry and physiology/logistics.
We can't close our eyes, sit down and 'will' our metamorphosis,
but we -can- engage the changes as they become available.
And, we can invent and by design put into place, better
conceptual environments where the whatever that we are becoming,
will have a native comfortable place to sustain and survive
there. In all likelihood, that is the upshoot value of
all the conversations and urged on mentations we do here,
and everywhere we go.
Our speed of thought and projection into 'gosh, look what's
possible, if only more people thought this way than that'
is wonderful and exhilarating on one hand, and frustrating
on the other, when fruition doesn't arrive at the pace that our
minds dream.
But it will, my friends. It will.
Life bless you all; happy Appreciation Day.
Jamie