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Re: Mathematical clarification: Impredicativity in Rosennean parlance



Torkel Franzen wrote:
This would clarify what sort of poverty of entailment is intended, and
allow readers to judge for themselves the aptness and significance of
"very little", "almost every", and so on.

Perhaps B&M might help, here. In chapter 9 of "vicious circles", they state:


"We have asserted more than once that the universe of hypersets is richer than the universe of wellfounded sets, richer in that you can think of the former as an enlargement of the latter obtained by 'throwing in' solutions to systems of equations. This chapter makes this claim precise and proves it."

Now, I can't pretend to understand the details of their proof. But, I can get the basic point, I think. Basically, B&M are saying that allowing the circularity that results from ZFA as opposed to ZFC gives us a richer formal space in which to work.

From this 50,000 ft perspective, it seems that RR is saying something very similar, regardless of whether he is (or I am) using the right terms or can see a clear path from circularity in formal systems to circularity in organisms.

It would be a great boon if you guys could help iron out these issues. The inadequacies you find and work to correct will help continue what RR started.

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