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Re: "Hard" science and "soft" science...



Hi Leo,
 
I had the same reaction to the Venter stuff. It's being touted as this enormous breakthrough but it just looks like more of the same cutting, transplanting, splicing stuff we've been doing for centuries with living organisms. It's just going ever smaller, as developments in technology allows. That's not to say he won't find uses for what he "creates" and the work may ultimately generate some useful insights into various functional capabilities within a cell (if the data can be interpreted from a relational perspective). But what he's achieved is nothing new as far as I can tell.
 
On the other hand, maybe that doesn't matter to him? Not everyone wants to understand what's really going on underneath (the "why" of things). In that case, they don't care how it works, as long as they figure out how to manipulate it. Perhaps that's the "computer effect"... we don't need to know how it works to use it. The guy is still being lauded as a "genius", right?
 
Whatever!
 
Judith

----- Original Message -----
From: Leo Caves
To: ***
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [ROSEN] "Hard" science and "soft" science...

The Venter video is worth a look
(http://www.edge.org/video/dsl/TED05_venter.html)

A few comments.
Extending the search for genes from particular organisms into the
environment is quite interesting, but it would seem to me that it would
be an ever expanding catalogue.

There is a large emphasis on collecting the component (gene) parts -
and an analogy is made to the electronics industry where once all the
parts are known, you can then build custom devices.   This seems, at
face value, a profoundly mechanistic view.   We know its not the
components identity that is important, its their (functional)
relationships - the organisation.  (This is not mentioned).   Moving
from the catalogue of parts to synthetic organisms is a leap of
extraordinary magnitude (as stated elsewhere on this list).  However,
in this case, it appears to be a purely empirical approach.

I note the prosaic way in which these fundamental "developments" are
delivered.  Of course, one needs to be sensitive to the context in
which the remarks are delivered, but if there is a deeper thread at
work then it is not even hinted at.

I find it quite disconcerting.

Leo