Re: Clear Dichotomy

[James N Rose <***>]

Judith wrote, in differentiating machines fromliving systems: 


>The problem is, often the tools/machines cause new, unforeseen
>problems... so we create different tools and machines to solve
>those new problems, and create even more new problems..... 
>That's pretty much how I see the history of human civilization. 
>It's a catalogue of side effects. We think the scientific solution
>is to learn ever more detail about the 
>universe-as-we-understand-it-from-studying-our-tools... and then
>make new tools to solve the side-effect problems. We rarely ever
>question whether our original conceptualization of how the universe
>works was adequate or whether we would still agree with it today.

I offer an adaptive re-phrasing .. an alternative application:

The problem is, often [a new species] cause(s) new, unforeseen
problems.. so [the natural co-living system responds with]
different [species and relationships] to solve those new problems
[that chage the co-integrated ecology], and creates even more new
problems.... That's pretty much how I see the history of [evolution].
We think that [the process of evolution is nature adaptively trying
different systemic reactive measures, then waiting to see what 
measures/nes-species succeed and which fail, resulting in the settling
of] new species and relationships [that resolve the old problems ..
systemic imbalances .. and yet produce new ones, requiring] new 
[specie] to solve the side-effect problems.  [Nature responds without
question to its] original [configuration of species/speciation and
whether is was a 'best configuration' or not. Rather, it continuously
responds and creates new system wide challenges that require continual
streams of responses even if the overall nature of the system 
transforms to new arrangements, functions and bases .. like morphing
from a stable anaerobic ecology to a stable aerobic one (which members
and chemical byproducts are wholly toxic to the aneaerobic life forms 
that spawned the aerobic ones).]


Jamie