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David,
 
Along with Dan, I too am wondering what specifically you mean by "influence or apparatus".
 
Regards,
Tim
 
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Subject: Proper Form

Dan,
 
    Oof!  It did not even occur to me that the title could be taken as bad spam.  No, I feel myself to be the fresh meat.  Most of you on the list strike me as capable and ambitious thinkers.  In all honesty there is an intimidation factor that accompanies that.  I thought that I would make an attempt at an equally provocative or at least a flamboyant entrance.  I wish to squeeze every drop of understanding from you, but I intend no offense!
 
Yes, the overflowing cup I'm referring to is intended to be a physical pre-biotic soup.  I feel also though that there may be analogies between the emergence of life and the establishment of societies of many types.  My focus is the emergence of life, for many reasons.  The non-living to living transition.  Not only Earth's original but also experimentally induced, which probably need not be constrained to a single chemical context.
 
Here are some of the why questions that occur to me.
 
Why did life emerge in the cup?
Why could life be established here?
Why was life not there before the influence or apparatus was observed to act on it?
Why did it we observe it's establishment after the influence or apparatus had been removed?
Why would someone  wish to establish life in an overflowing cup?
Why is life observed emerging as community/ecology?
Why did we agree that what we had observed were organisms?
...
 
Of this I am certain, that a scenario akin to what I've roughly outlined is possible. Certain as if I had witnessed it, though I have not.
 
In all honesty Dan, I am perhaps a little too accustomed to contemplating these particular kinds of things alone.  Ocassionally with the company of others or while considering the published work of others, but mostly by myself.  Please grant me some time to adjust.
 
 
David