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Re: Causality vs Entailment



Hi Jamie,
 
I view entailment, through my father's development of the term, to embody and reflect those aspects of Natural Law that bind and guide all aspects of the universe. Causality represents the ongoing, active expressions or manifestations of such entailments in the natural world ("natural"; as differentiated from "formal"-- the world of formalisms).
 
As he (RR) said in that text that I quoted; we can only perceive the entailment relations through causal manifestations of them. But the danger is that we are using our own minds, knowledge, imagination, etc, to try and discern what those causal entailments might be, and we can only check our accuracy through commutation of modeling relations and predictions based on those relations. The danger inherent in the whole process is that relative success in doing so with simple systems has given us certain wrong conclusions about the nature of the universe in general. We have ignored the areas where our models don't commute entirely, figuring the flaws were minimal; just little details probably, and not anything fundamentally wrong with our model... But complexity has a way of magnifying little details, doesn't it?! As you know, Robert Rosen was convinced there was, indeed, something fundamentally wrong with our model in general and the main problem was a total lack of attention paid to the importance of relational causality and matters of organization, by science.

Judith
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Subject: Re: [ROSEN] Causality vs Entailment -typo fixed

James N Rose wrote:
 
 Judith,
 
 Would it be correct to phrase it that entailment is any
 linked or bound synchronicity of existence/behavior, where
 conventional causal linkages may be present but aren't
 required?
 
 Therefore, the chicken-egg question is an entailed
 system, even -if- 'causality' is present but not uniquely
 determinable when traditional reductionism is attempted.
 
 Jamie