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Re: Causality vs. Entailment



I view causality as the means by which entailments occur in the external world. And that if there are perceived to exist entailments which exceed a particular representation of causality, then it is the representation(s) of causality which need to be expanded/revised so that such entailments can be accounted for in causal terms. So, for example, Aristotelian causality offers temporal simultaneity of causal factors unlike a linear, chain-like, view of causality, and Aristotelian causality offers causal potential in the category of final cause.
 
But the Aristotelian picture falls short in other ways, and so seems to me to lead to the opportunity to create yet more comprehensive formalisms of causality.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
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Subject: Re: Causality vs. Entailment

Ayten's notion of entailment is accurate in depicting entailment as sort of a form of "causal potential" although there is more here than this. All causality is just a tiny fraction of the total potential entailed by systems and their interactions. Entailment is also independent of time or directionality, in that separate things (parts, components, stages, interactivity, etc) can both entail/be-entailed-by one another in totality, but not necessarily directly or specifically (like the chicken and the egg). Causality is dependent on time flow, among other things, where entailment is not.
 
Entailment describes relations, including potential, in totality. Causality describes what happens. In this way, causality can be seen as a subset of the total entailment potential of systems and can be used to try to learn about the entailment relations within system organizations. It is entailment that Robert Rosen was most seeking to understand because it would include causality (and inference, as well-- which describes the version of entailment expressed in modeling/simulations) within it. Entailment is the more comprehensive category.
It's sort of like a situation where your pet dog reacts to some new stimulus in ways you've never seen it behave before. Extreme heat, extreme cold, earthquake, weather, whatever...  The entailment was always present, but this is the first causal example.
 
There have been cases of organisms that were thought to be fully understood, only to have it suddenly become manifest that what we've seen is only a very long larval stage and the organism undergoes a sudden metamorphosis to reach some new stage (which we presume is the adult). The Axolotl, of Mexico, was one such organism. It developed the capability of breeding while still in its larval stage, a fairly well-known phenomenon (neotony). In this case, the lakes where this salamander species lived was at very high altitude. When taken to lower altitudes, the axolotls began to metamorphose into a fairly ordinary salamander species.
 
My father was fascinated by the axolotl because he said it had far more biological capability in its larval stage, which it lost when it metamorphosed. For example, in the larval stage it can breathe air or use its gills in an aquatic environment. It can completely regenerate an entire limb if cut off. In its natural environment, the axolotl never actually fulfills its entailed metamorphosis from larval stage to adult stage, living its entire life in the larval stage. Thus, entailment and causality diverge in the same species.
 
My father actually wrote a fictional short story based on this phenomenon, entitled "What Really Happened To Jeff" or something like that, where the main character is a college student whose roommate was experimenting on axolotls and developed a theory that our current human form may just be a case of arrested development in the larval stage. He figured out how to trigger it and disappeared without a trace with no clues as to what could have happened to him (except for the dessicated sea squirt found lying on the floor of the lab...).
 
Entailment is what is responsible for side effects; the so called "hidden variables" or unknown relations within a system being studied.
 
Judith