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Tim and List:
I have a question whether it is misunderstood or
ex pressis verbis R. Rosen's teaching.
In a post I received today
(From: <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: The universal clock-maker...)
I read (excerpt):
"However, machines are not naturally occuring systems. They are created by
human beings, which ARE living systems, and are not complete systems in the
sense that their entailment patterns are all tangled up with OURS. "
Are we part of nature? I believe so.
If a system is created by human beings and humans are part of nature, why
are those systems not naturally occurring? (I went through this problem in a
psych lists, where I used the phrase "MIR": Mind Independent Reality
and someone asked: isn't your mind part of the reality? )
If we are part of nature, our deeds are naturally occurring.
We can 'model' them of course, away from the totality of nature, reduced to
(limited to) specifically set boundaries.
What is your opinion?
John M
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