> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROSEN Forum [mailto:*** Behalf Of
Howard
> Pattee
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:54 AM
> To: ***
> Subject: Re: Anticipatory Systems
>
>
> Tim,
>
> I will cease discussing Rosen's opinions of other scientist's motives
and
> models, fair or not. I can see that it is not an acceptable topic
> for your
> list.
>
Howard,
HP:As I said in my post beginning, I was expressing
irritation at Rosen's labeling entire fields of science, whole classes of
scientists as well as individual scientists as "reductionists" and criticizing
their research strategies. My only point was to suggest that such labeling
should not be propagated on Tim's list.
TG: As
listowner, I am far more concerned with your continued attempts to propagate
mischaracterizations of Rosen on this list. Again and again, you
have seeked to paint him as something he is not, pulling quotes and partial
quotes out of context and attempting to draw caricatures about his character.
In your previous
post, to seriously ask "why not?" as you did, in regard to the positions
of Rutherford and Hutchins that you referenced, I can only
conclude that either you have not actually read "Life Itself" or that you
have little or no understanding of the book, since that was such a fundamental
point. As Judith said, your portrayal entirely missed the point of his
comparison. In either case, with that apparent lack of understanding of
the very beginning of the book, you are in no position to characterize on
this list the man who wrote the book.
My patience is
about at an end, and there is too else much worth discussing on this list
to waste time on these tiresome mischaracterizations. Subscriber status is
granted or revoked on this list at my whim, and I am feeling mighty whimsical
right about now.
Tim