Re: Rosen, Kauffman and compatibility

[Jerry Zhu <***>]

It maybe that concepts are better understood by
relating them each other.   Anticipatory Systems is
explained in Essays on LI but not efficient cause. AS
states that current change of state depends on future
state.  I don't know what efficient cause is.

My guess is that the cause of current change being
based on future state is efficient cause otherwise it
is not.

The concept of "future" in AS is ontogeny concept not
phylogeny or anageny ones. The future states the
higher organism forms are indeterministic from lower
forms.

What are good texts to understand Rosen quickly?

Thanks

Jerry

--- Tim Gwinn <***> wrote:

> I agree that "closed to efficient cause" does not
> appear to be a sufficient
> condition.
> Tim
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: ROSEN Forum
> [mailto:*** Behalf Of
> Howard
> Pattee
>   Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:57 AM
>   To: ***
>   Subject: Re: Rosen, Kauffman and compatibility
> 
> 
>   At 08:00 AM 1/29/05 -0500, Tim wrote:
> 
>     Howard,
>     And your point is...?
> 
>   No point. I was surprised that my memory was so
> bad. We apparently agree
> that "closed to efficient causation" is a necessary
> condition for life. It
> does not appear to me to be a sufficient condition.
>   Do we disagree on sufficiency?
> 
>   Howard
> 



                
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