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Re: Rosennean "Cookbook"



Judith,
 
I wanted to ask something similar from Jack, but you did it faster and more practically - however less generally than I wanted to.
I simply wanted to ask Jack: what 'level' of initial conditions are relevant in his opinion within the ever changing world - from its
ultimate initial condition (leading to a so called Big Bang) up to
the last pre-phase of the observed model? Is the 'branch' one, or the initiation of the branch, or ....so on and on?
We are so deeply anchored in the reductionistic model-worldview that we fall into phenomenology of late, identifying nth level causes as initiation. Which is practical.
 
Just do not think 'really deep' into what a 'change' may be (also: result of others, initiation of further, response to other, etc. etc.) because it may interfere with normalcy just like thinking in terms of solipsism...
 
I feel still excited for the QP idea, although it seems it is a cute and newer setup for advanced model-work (as all computer-science is)
for advanced minds who know how to step up from the MAP into the TERRITORY...
 
It is close to your example starting with a given plant life and an existing atmosphere to observe the change of both - interactively.
Which was a good example anyway.
 
John M
 
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Subject: Re: Rosennean "Cookbook"

 
Jack Park wrote: The QP program I wrote deal with expanding on
initial conditions, but does nothing, afik, to explore the boundary
conditions except to the extent that it runs out of entailments and
expands its model no further.
 
What your program didn't include was the impact of each iteration on the "initial conditions". In a complex universe, context impacts change and change impacts context. In essence, the context evolves along with the living systems. The initial conditions change all the way through, so it should never run out of entailments... It's that huge interactive potential again, where organizational changes cause a shift in all relations including those between system and context, and it just keeps going.
 
This is how the development of plant life on Earth could change the atmospheric chemistry, which changed climate, which changed plant life, which continued to change atmospheric chemistry...  (a series of developments humans are actively working to undo...)
 
Judith