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Re: speed and specificity of enzymes
- From: Tim Gwinn <***>
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:41:24 -0500
Jerry,
My main point is that you originally made a statement as if it were a
well-known empirical fact that:
> The positional measurement is only for 1st order
> autopoiesis, unicellular organism. For 2nd order or
> multicellular organization with a nervous system, the
> measurement is not only in position but also in
> velocity. Therefore we can freeze a bacteria without
> killing it but we can never be able to freeze a
> organism with a nervous system since the velocity
> measurement is lost.
If this is a proposed theory or hypothesis, fine. But since you stated it in
a way as if it were empirical fact, I asked for evidence, proof or
references. I'm still not sure what "evidence" you are talking about in your
last reply. Can you state it explicitly? As far as I can tell, our current
inability to freeze larger organisms like mammals to near absolute zero and
successfully re-animate them hardly constitutes evidence, since cell
destruction from intracellular freezing ruins the experiment and renders any
other negative theories with regard to re-animation unprovable.
I'm not saying your original statement is wrong, I just want to know what it
is: hypothesis, theory, or fact. If the latter, where are the references?
Regards,
Tim
> Tim,
>
> You already give evidence that illustrates both
> position and velocity measurements. You probably could
> give more along this line.
>
> Velocity measurement in 2nd order autopoietic system
> has, in my mind, some to do with interactions between
> neurons which I say second temporal symmetry breaking.
> The first one is 2nd law of thermodynamics. Is there
> a third temporal symmetry breaking? yes. that is the
> topic of 3rd autopoietic systems.
>
> Jerry