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Jerry Zhu wrote: we can freeze a bacteria without
killing it but we can
never be able to freeze a
organism with a nervous system since the
velocity
measurement is lost.
That's fascinating! If it's true, I wonder if we should tell
all those companies that offer to cryogenically freeze your loved one, in the
hopes that one day, when there's a cure for whatever disease that
person died from, they can thaw the body out and.....
I think their logic kind of peters out at this point. They presume
a whole lot of stuff besides a cure for the disease.
I have a question, though... what about multicellular plants? What
is their speed and specificity situation?
Judith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:38
AM
Subject: [ROSEN] speed and specificity of
enzymes
The positional measurement is only for 1st
order
autopoiesis, unicellular organism. For 2nd order or
multicellular
organization with a nervous system, the
measurement is not only in position
but also in
velocity. Therefore we can freeze a bacteria without
killing
it but we can never be able to freeze a
organism with a nervous system
since the velocity
measurement is lost.
Jerry
--- Judith
Rosen <***>
wrote:
> HP and JZ wrote: "The speed and specificity of
>
enzymes is ______..."
>
> Perhaps they are; I'm willing to
believe that
> between the two of you,
> the truth is somewhere
in there; about the speed and
> specificity of
> enzymes... But
while this may help in applied
> sciences (like
> pharmacology)
the questions that comes to my mind
> are things like; Why
> do
enzymes exist? In natural systems, they're made
> by living
>
organisms, are they not? These are substances which
> are capable of
> breaking apart molecules and rearranging atoms with
> other
atoms into
> new kinds of molecules-- in a particular way-- all
>
without being
> changed, themselves, if memory serves... Enzymes
are
> extraordinarily
> useful in living organisms and there are
myriad
> varieties of them
> because they are quite specific in
which molecules
> each type of enzyme
> can break apart and
rearrange. The creation of
> enzymes is specified by
> the
organization of the system as a whole. So, it
> would be the
>
organizational information about enzymes that I
> would want to delve
> into... if I were going into a research career on
>
this.
>
> Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Zhu
> To: ***
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re:
[ROSEN] Why four categories of
> causation?
>
>
> --- Howard Pattee wrote:
>
>
> I have suggested that the speed and
> > specificity
of enzymes
> > depend on the uncertainty in momenta
induced by
> the
> > recognition
(positional
> > measurements) of their
substrates.
>
> Jerry Zhu:
>
> The speed and specificity of enzymes is the
>
statistic
> cause (hence undertermined) of the interlock
of
> hypercyles and the interlock of interlocks
of
> hypercycles and the interlock of the interlocks
of
> interlocks of hypercycles. New interlocks are
>
formed
> from the spin offs of hypercycles and new
>
interlocks
> of interlocks are formed from interlock spin
offs.
> Hence the spin offs or divides are positional
and
> relational. Therefore the size and speed of
>
enzymes
> are controlled by the organizational contraints
of
> the
> collective of embedded interlocks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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