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Tim: fine.
Now try to consider this as a criterion of
complexity: As SJ wrote, two models of a car (=a non-complex - simple? - model):
one the electrical circuitry, the other the mechanical drive system. They can
not reduced or transformed into one another so would they 'make' the simple
model "car" a complexity?
I state that they are "equivalent", since both
refer to the SAME one car model, from different aspects. Their equivalency is
topical. In your terms they are incommensurable, because they refer to
different parts/functions and have no common platform. They are differently
encoded.
Q1): is encoding of the same object (model) from
different aspects equivalent, or inequivalent? (e.g. Car as vehicle or as
investment)
Q2): are two encodings within the same
object (model) for diverse functions (aspects?) in differently based features
inequivalent? they are incommeasurable because they overlap only in a
third kind of view, none of the two can be matched to one-another.
Do we understand RR's expressions the right
(full extent) way, or do we just extract a kind of meaning that fits our "RR-ean
belief system" (ha ha)? In extracted expressions from a longer text - where
connotations change and are unusual, there is room for inaccurate (incomplete)
meaning-simulations. When RR finished a text for a certain purpose, he was
questioned about meanings. Do you think that he explained similarly a
context to his li'l girl and to a highly critical minded physicist friend? Do
you think that we, with different learned and experiential backgrounds will ever
find out what and how he meant a word?
There is one professor in all that and
unfortunately he is not with us anymore. I try to capture his ways of thinking
(not the exact words) and add it to my basis of (Bohm-Rosen-etc.) worldview to
arrive at a next step - and call it (my) 'Rosenism'. (Please, Judith, do not
excommunicate me for that from the RR-Valhalla. I will never put inadequate
words into his writings nor will I expropriate his words as my own ideas).
It is a difficult situation, we all think
differently. This list or any other free/open minded discussion forum is no
Kuran or Talmud Bible Class to learn, memorize, and recite the
judeochrislamic phrases.
Cheers
John M
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