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Hi John M.
I'm sure there are many reasons why so many animals were able to
evade the danger whereas so many humans did not. Perhaps one of the downsides to
human intelligence is the atrophy of numerous subtle sensory perceptions. We
relegate such things now to the realm of "intuition". The ability to read body
language, to "catch a vibe" off other people, to sense when danger is
immanent... these are thought to be almost supernatural capabilities but I think
they are all naturally part of a larger sensory capacity as organisms than we
have proven to ourselves, via science, that we have.
This is what I am referring to with the menstrual cycle entraining:
We know this happens and can "prove it" via contemporary science. The fact that
it happens means that several things must also be happening to cause
it. Human adult females (and males, too, I suspect) are obviously capable
of both expressing and receiving some form of unconscious
communication. They must also be capable of interpreting this kind of
information. AND They are capable of instituting changes in
physical organization based on it. It's clearly interactive and it's also
not a conscious process. I don't know how long it takes exactly, but I can tell
you it's less than three months. Physical proximity is required, because
teenaged girls who spend more time with their friends than with their mother or
sisters will cycle in synch with their friends. I'm interested in this
level of bodily communication that must be happening in
order for this phenomenon to be able to occur. I want to know what
else this elaborate system of communication/feedback/control can do!
There is so much about the human body that medical science hasn't
got a clue about. Like; Why does acupuncture work? The AMA finally admits that
it has been "scientifically verified" that acupuncture really does work but
scratches its collective head and shrugs when asked about the causal basis for
this effect. Have you ever had an EKG reading taken, where they glue those
little electrodes on your chest and down your arms and legs... to read your
heart beat... ? The first time I had one done, I was amazed at the fact
that they were even gluing electrodes to the tops of my feet! I asked why
they do that and was told that they can get different electrical readings of
your heart from each of these electrodes. Electrical readings, mind you-- not
your pulse. I asked what difference there is between the readings taken nearest
the heart and those taken on the feet. The tech didn't know, but said
that certain disease states produce distinctive reading patterns. I
then asked my doctor about this and was told that I would need to talk to a
cardiologist to get a full answer, although she could tell me that my readings
were "normal". Well, the question that I have about all
this is: How does this phenomenon relate to the "meridians" in acupuncture?
I have about a gazillion questions, just like that one, floating
around in my head. No wonder I have trouble concentrating for very long,
eh?
Judith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:28
PM
Subject: Re: [ROSEN] sixth sense (and
seventh, eighth, ninth...)
Judith:
All animals? moles? then again had humans have
wings as birds, many would have survived.
The bicameral brain may be one reason why we
don't listen to subtle premonitions: we speculate with our left brain, so the
right's stupid feelings are suppressed. Maybe some capabilites as
well.
Our senses don't make sense.
The speculation went public: Under Clinton an
early warning telephone system was started, in 2000-2001 many lines were cut
around those islands in question. (Politix). Also: there WERE some early
warning calls, what the local authorities suppressed in protecting the
tourism. Even 1 hour could have saved thousand.
Just reading your question.....
John M
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:30
AM
Subject: Re: sixth sense (and seventh,
eighth, ninth...)
Steve Johnson wrote: I'm sorry if this is off topic. I saw many
articles
over the last couple of weeks that animals escaped
the
tsunami unaffected due to some internal warning system
that they
apparently possess. Does anyone know what it
is?
Hi Steve,
Actually, this is right on topic because it spotlights some of
the very reasons why reductionism is so prevalent in human approaches to the
world and it also spotlights the repercussions of that
habit-pattern.
Human beings tend to assume that our senses come via our
organs associated with those senses: ears/hearing, eyes/seeing,
tongue/tasting, nose/smelling, skin/touch and we also tend to further assume
that animals with those same organs have the same senses, in the same
general mode, and the same limitations we perceive ourselves as having. We
talk about so-called oddities like dolphins and sonar or bats and
echo-location, or snakes and infrared/heat sense ability...
SNIP(JM)
But that's just the beginning. Why would we assume that we
don't have capabilities beyond the obvious? I think it's because we use the
obvious to verify everything else. The scientific method dictates; "Accept
nothing as existing until it is verified via our own senses." That's
Descartes, again. We don't trust our own perceptions unless we can
verify things, using technology, with the obvious five senses. We need a
printout or a clicking noise or some smell... The mind has a tendency to
take over from the body and decide it knows better, which then lets a lot of
capability atrophy. On top of that, the mind also tends to get into
habit patterns which limit us even further.
Most animals are not hobbled by this. They are using all
sensory capability available to them and just "going with it" rather than
pooh-poohing it and telling themselves they're just imagining it or
whatever. Indeed, if we have already "verified" that bats can
echolocate and snakes can "sense body heat in the air"... why should
that be the limit of their capabilities? It kind of blows my mind that
people are even surprised that animals survived this tsunami without our
help and technological warnings!
Judith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:08
PM
Subject: [ROSEN] sixth sense
I'm sorry if this is off topic. I saw many articles
over
the last couple of weeks that animals escaped the
tsunami unaffected
due to some internal warning system
that they apparently posess. Does
anyone know what it
is?
Here is an exerpt from one
aritcle:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6795562/
But
no one we can find involved with the care of
animals can report the
death of a single one.
Goson Sipasad is the manager of the Khao Lak
National
Park. He says all the animals went high in the hills
and
have not returned. He believes not one perished in
or around the
park.
"We have not found any dead animals along this part of
the
coast," he says.
Jong Kit's elephants' intuition was very lucky
for
four Japanese tourists who had climbed aboard them the
day of
the tsunami. They all survived, carried on the
elephants' backs to the
hills.
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