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Re: Karl Popper/False positives...



Popper's falsifiability is a logical criteria, not an experimental one. That is, the idea of falsifiability is that, given the assertion in question, there can be constructed a statement which can potentially logically falsify the assertion. So, if the assertion is "All X are Y", then falsifiability means that there can be constructed a statement, such as "There exists an X which is not Y", which can then - at least in principle - by tested empirically.
 
He agrees that "it is never possible to prove conclusively that an empirical scientifc theory is false." That is, the best we can do is have a consensus on the logical level, and then establish a refutation at that logical level. But, if we do not agree on that level, then falsification is not possible. For example, if you have a theory "All X are Y" and I show an example of where "There exists an X which is not Y", you could alter your theory such that the case of X I showed did not belong to your theory, either by changing definitions or using ad-hoc hypotheses, etc.
 
See "Introduction 1982" in Popper's Realism and the Aim of Science (Routledge, 1983).
 
Similarly, the use of modelling relations in science relies on having a consensus of encodings/decodings, since they are creative acts, unentailed from within the modelling relation. If two people do not agree on the encoding/decoding, then one may see the modelling relation as commuting and the other may see it as not.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
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From: ROSEN Forum [mailto:***On Behalf Of Judith Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Karl Popper/False positives...

Jack,
 
So, what Karl Popper was saying was that there's no such thing as a "false negative", right? There are false positives, but not false negatives? Hmmm..... I'm not sure I agree with that. I'll have to give it some thought and figure out why my alarms go off at that idea.
 
Judith
 

Jack Park wrote: *Karl Popper also said that.
I don't recall him using "sometimes". My recollection is that "negate
and prove that" is the only way to "prove" anything, according to Popper.

Jack