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Re: The definition of Formality




Howard Pattee wrote: I have the impression that Rosen and Tim feel that in the case of "closed loops of entailment" there is an a priori necessary limit to empirical models. This is where I am not clear. Is a closed loop of entailment a formal concept or can it only be empirically recognized?

1.) How, in your opinion, does a formal concept differ from an empirically recognized concept? Are they mutually exclusive?
Aren't these two aspects of the same process? 
 
2.) Formally conceptualized by whom? Empirically recognized by whom? In your opinion, is there an a priori necessary limit to the conceptual capabilities of human "empiricists" when faced with natural systems?
 
3.) What if "a closed loop of entailment" is both?
 
Judith