Re: BioTheory launch

[Ayten Aydin <***>]

Dear Judith,

My views on your three points:

1. New deadlines are realistic; a short call for papers with some highlights
is needed;

2. Your papers will be very helpful to launch the idea in an orderly manner
and thus the journal you have in mind; for this matter early distribution of
your abstracts gives an insightful direction to the rest.

3. How about "Bio-theory according to Robert Rosen"?

Good luck,
Ayten

P.S. Conference went very well with usefull give and take. I presented four
papers of which two are very close to our new topic in the horizon
(interdisciplinarity/complexity/time/entropy&syntropy/ operating within
realms above physicality/ art in action). Some of the ideas therein may be
included in my paper as they relate ( copy rights of papers per se are
surrendered).




----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Rosen" <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: BioTheory launch


> Hi Ayten,
>
> You raise several important issues.
>
> The first:
> > that one month is too short also because many may be on leave these
days.
> > Perhaps an abstract or an annotated outline could be done within the
> > deadline you suggest.
> Hmmm, I guess you have a point there. How does Sept 30th for an abstract,
> sound, with December 30th as a final deadline? That way, I can launch the
> page, with something besides my own stuff... And January first is a good
> official "birthday" for the inaugural issue to be published.
>
> Which brings me to the second important thought you raised:
> > I am wondering if you could right your own paper in the form of a story
or
> > the like within your artistic abilities, inspired by the bio-theory
and/or
> > complexity theory perceived by your father.
> Yes, I intend to. I have two papers in mind: One based entirely on my
> father's work, which just serves to bring all his conclusions about TIME
> into one coherent written narrative; The other will be mine.
>
> The next important issue you raised was this one:
> > I am, however, wondering if bio-theory or bio-science may be grouped
> > together under the conventional science as one of its sub-sector,
whereas
> it
> > must be beyond it by content and definition to my mind.
> Oh, I agree totally. I think the reason my father chose that name,
> "BioTheory", was because of his strong opinion that the kind of systems
> biology deals with (intense complexity) are a vast resource from which we
> can learn a great deal about perhaps everything else. The lessons living
> systems can teach us inform our investigations into every other aspect of
> reality, and his entire life's work (Rosennean Complexity Theory) is the
> reason he believed that. "Biology CAN inform Physics," he said.
>
> It may be true that the name will limit, in future, what people think it
is
> about. If I were creating a scientific journal, purely as my own idea, and
I
> wanted it to be a general scientific journal (as I want this to be), then,
> truthfully, I would come up with a different name. The situation here is
> that the name BioTheory was my father's name for his own subscription
> service/journal and the only reason I would launch a scientific journal at
> all is because of him. So I have an emotional attachment to this name that
> is not logical. (I guess it's that whole "you are becoming a mother to
your
> father's ideas" thing.... some wise lady said that to me a while back...)
>
> Possible solutions to the problem would be to lengthen the name. Just off
> the top of my head, I suggest something like "BioTheory: A Journal of
> Science based on Rosennean Complexity Theory" or something that actually
has
> Robert Rosen in the name: "Rosennean Science: A Journal based on Robert
> Rosen's BioTheory"... I'll give it some more thought. But BioTheory has to
> be part of the name in order for it to be worth my time. (Human beings and
> their motivations, eh? Totally not related to the subject at hand, but
she's
> attached to that name...)
>
> Judith
> PS: Welcome back from the Conference! I hope it went well.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ayten Aydin" <***>
> To: <***>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [ROSEN] syntropy, Fantappie, taboo, futures
>
>
> > Judith,
> > I also support your idea on the bio-theory and studying it within the
> > concept of TIME, which is becoming important aspect of the complexity
> theory
> > as a whole.
>
>