Re: BioTheory launch

[Judith Rosen <***>]

Hi Ayten,

You raise several important issues.

The first:
> that one month is too short also because many may be on leave these days.
> Perhaps an abstract or an annotated outline could be done within the
> deadline you suggest.
Hmmm, I guess you have a point there. How does Sept 30th for an abstract,
sound, with December 30th as a final deadline? That way, I can launch the
page, with something besides my own stuff... And January first is a good
official "birthday" for the inaugural issue to be published.

Which brings me to the second important thought you raised:
> I am wondering if you could right your own paper in the form of a story or
> the like within your artistic abilities, inspired by the bio-theory and/or
> complexity theory perceived by your father.
Yes, I intend to. I have two papers in mind: One based entirely on my
father's work, which just serves to bring all his conclusions about TIME
into one coherent written narrative; The other will be mine.

The next important issue you raised was this one:
> I am, however, wondering if bio-theory or bio-science may be grouped
> together under the conventional science as one of its sub-sector, whereas
it
> must be beyond it by content and definition to my mind.
Oh, I agree totally. I think the reason my father chose that name,
"BioTheory", was because of his strong opinion that the kind of systems
biology deals with (intense complexity) are a vast resource from which we
can learn a great deal about perhaps everything else. The lessons living
systems can teach us inform our investigations into every other aspect of
reality, and his entire life's work (Rosennean Complexity Theory) is the
reason he believed that. "Biology CAN inform Physics," he said.

It may be true that the name will limit, in future, what people think it is
about. If I were creating a scientific journal, purely as my own idea, and I
wanted it to be a general scientific journal (as I want this to be), then,
truthfully, I would come up with a different name. The situation here is
that the name BioTheory was my father's name for his own subscription
service/journal and the only reason I would launch a scientific journal at
all is because of him. So I have an emotional attachment to this name that
is not logical. (I guess it's that whole "you are becoming a mother to your
father's ideas" thing.... some wise lady said that to me a while back...)

Possible solutions to the problem would be to lengthen the name. Just off
the top of my head, I suggest something like "BioTheory: A Journal of
Science based on Rosennean Complexity Theory" or something that actually has
Robert Rosen in the name: "Rosennean Science: A Journal based on Robert
Rosen's BioTheory"... I'll give it some more thought. But BioTheory has to
be part of the name in order for it to be worth my time. (Human beings and
their motivations, eh? Totally not related to the subject at hand, but she's
attached to that name...)

Judith
PS: Welcome back from the Conference! I hope it went well.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ayten Aydin" <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ROSEN] syntropy, Fantappie, taboo, futures


> Judith,
> I also support your idea on the bio-theory and studying it within the
> concept of TIME, which is becoming important aspect of the complexity
theory
> as a whole.