Re: syntropy, Fantappie, taboo, futures

[Ayten Aydin <***>]

Judith,
I also support your idea on the bio-theory and studying it within the
concept of TIME, which is becoming important aspect of the complexity theory
as a whole. This may also include syntropy as one of its natural aspect.
I am, however, wondering if bio-theory or bio-science may be grouped
together under the conventional science as one of its sub-sector, whereas it
must be beyond it by content and definition to my mind. The meta-science
expanding into intuitional and creative areas!. Perhaps comprehensive
science, meta-science, as a few speculations to attract some others suiting
better to what you mean with bio-theory/bio-science. I also agree with Dan
that one month is too short also because many may be on leave these days.
Perhaps an abstract or an annotated outline could be done within the
deadline you suggest.

I am wondering if you could right your own paper in the form of a story or
the like within your artistic abilities, inspired by the bio-theory and/or
complexity theory perceived by your father. Time and complexity reside
there. Who can do it better than you as your father's mind is capsulated
within your chest and brain ready to go out of your system? This may inspire
all of us to come back with papers within our capabilities and with our
aspirations for future.

Ayten

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Rosen" <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Time: syntropy, Fantappie, taboo, futures


> This whole discussion is one of the many reasons I think a new study of
what
> time is and how it works needs to be engaged in. That was what my father
was
> beginning to do, via Complexity (the book he was writing), but he didn't
get
> far enough before he died, unless it's in those hand-written notes... but
I
> don't think it's likely. If he'd had a breakthrough of that magnitude, I
> would have gotten a phone call in the middle of the night.
>
> However, it seems to me that the ideas are all laid out in Anticipatory
> Systems... the history of the current beliefs about time and the reason
> biology affords a more comprehensive lens through which to observe the
> behavior of time, itself. Time is peculiar. There is more than one way to
> interact with it, more than one way it is expressed via systems in the
> universe. If I had the educational background for it, I'd attempt to do
the
> study myself. But, failing that, it seems to me that we have the
equivalent
> here on the list of a really well-rounded educational background and
spheres
> of expertise that could allow for a pretty comprehensive treatment of
time.
>
> Tell you what... I'm getting ready to launch a new page on my website that
> is based on my father's notion for a way out of Academia for new
> science/scientists. He called it BioTheory. His vision of it was different
> from what I'm going to be able to do, simply because he isn't here to
drive
> the process and be the draw. But his name is. What I intend to do is
create
> an internet based journal, of sorts, which will be capable of several
> functions: It will publish new work that is based on "Rosennean"
principles;
> It will give non-traditional thinkers a forum for their work, with my
> father's name and reputation as the draw; It will serve as a marketplace
for
> those whose work might otherwise not get past the gatekeepers of
mainstream
> journals (because the work is not "mainstream enough"); And it will
> hopefully inspire people to continue working on original work that
questions
> long-held assumptions based on flawed logic, and add ultimately to real
> understanding of how the universe works (Natural Law).
>
> So what I propose is this: I'm going to write up a summary of what my
father
> points out about time in Anticipatory Systems. All of you are invited and
> challenged to write a paper expressing a discussion of what you think time
> is, how it works, and how (means/modes) to study it more fully. I will
> publish them all together on the BioTheory page to launch the journal.
> Deadline: Launch is set for sometime around Sept 10th.
>
> Below is part of my father's notes on what he wanted to create. It's
rather
> rough, just personal notes that aren't much more than musing to himself at
> the typewriter, but I thought the list might appreciate seeing this.
>
> Judith
>
> FISCAL  ASPECTS OF  BIOTHEORY
>
>      I now have to think about the terms of my offer.
>
>
>
>      The basis is, of course, that I no longer wish to
>
> make my work available to the general scientific public
>
> through normal channels; journals and books.  Nor do I
>
> wish to continue participating in what has become normal
>
> academic life.  These have become increasingly inappropriate to the nature
> of my research work.  On the other
>
> hand, I do not intend to curtail my scientific work, but
>
> rather to expand it.  What I hope to achieve by leaving
>
> Academia is to do it better, and in peace; I intend to
>
> concentrate on it fully, in a way no longer possible in Academia.
>
>
>
>      I wish to continue to make the products of this work
>
> available to those interested in it, but privately, and
>
> in limited quantity.
>
>
>
>      Hence, I have decided to invite subscriptions for
>
> this work.  I will limit myself initially to 500 sub-
>
> scribers worldwide.  Subscribers may be individuals or
>
> organizations.
>
>
>
>      Subscriptions will be made available at an initial fee of $500 per
> annum.  In return, subscribers will receive titles and abstracts of all of
> my forthcoming research work.  Only subscribers will be thus informed;
>
> there will be no other distribution or information to the
>
> scientific community at large.  If a subscriber wishes to
>
> receive the complete manuscript, a copy will be forwarded.
>
> There will be no other distribution of this material.
>
> Copies will be individually numbered.
>
>
>
>      In addition to research manuscripts, I intend to pre-
>
> pare, from time to time, more discursive articles and re-
>
> views, as seems appropriate.  I will also, from time to
>
> time, invite other scientists to prepare contributions
>
> for BIOTHEORY  subscribers; as usual, distribution of
>
> these contributions will be limited to subscribers.
>
>      A novel feature of this subscription service will
>
> be its interactive nature.  I will invite subscribers to
>
> suggest issues they feel to be of particular interest,
>
> either to themselves or to the broader community of sub-
>
> scribers in general.  In other words, BIOTHEORY  will
>
> also function as a consultation service, responding as
>
> appropriate to specific subscriber interests.
>
>
>
>      There may be additional fees involved in this con-
>
> sultatory mode, depending upon the time and effort such
>
> requests require.  These will be determined on a case-by-
>
> case basis.  But as far as possible, such consultations
>
> will be included within the primary subscription service.
>
>