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Re: Hilbert, according to Robert Rosen; "Hard" vs "Soft"



This quote addresses the issue of Hilbert's overall formalist program of mathematics. This is different than the Hiley/vonNeumann questioning of whether one particular mathematical formalism - "Hilbert space" (a kind of vector space) - was appropriate for encoding QM or whether other formalisms - algebras/lattices - were more appropriate. My response to JohnM was that I don't know if Hilbert had a stance on the latter question. But, in accordance with his program, if Hilbert had interest in the question he presumably would only have been happy with a formalism that was formalizable.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
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Subject: Hilbert, according to Robert Rosen; "Hard" vs "Soft"

From the Praeludium of "Life, Itself":
Robert Rosen wrote:"The two great shocks of which I spoke [the overthrow of Euclid and the discovery of inconsistencies (paradoxes) in Set Theory] have coalesced... into a frantic concern with consistency, with a demand that a system of inferential entailments (e.g., a set of axioms or production rules, operating on a set of given propositions or postulates) be free of internal or logical contradictions. Hilbert and others thought they had traced down the ultimate source of all the difficulties in mathematics... Hilbert and his formalistic school argued that it was by allowing semantic truth into mathematics at all... that all the difficulty arises.
 
Hilbert and his formalistic school actually asserted much more than this. They argued that what we have called "semantic truth" could always be effectively replaced by more syntactic rules. In other words, any external referent, and any quality thereof, could be pulled inside a purely syntactic system. By a purely sysntactic system, they understood: 1. A finite set of meaningless symbols, an alphabet; 2. A finite set of rules for combining these symbols into strings or formulas; and 3. A finite set of production rules for turning given formulas into new ones. In such a purely syntactic system, consistency is guaranteed...
 
The idea that all truth can be expressed as pure syntactic truth, which is the essence of the formalist position in mathematics, I claim to be the analog of Rutherford's position in science, the formal analog of "hardness" and quantitation.
 
The formalist position is, first of all, an _expression_ of a belief that all mathematical truth can be reduced to, or expressed in terms of, word processing or symbol manipulation [computable] . Hence the close association of formalization with the idea of "machines" (Turing machines) and with the idea of algorithms. These embody purely automatic procedures, which require no thought, no perception, indeed, no external agency at all.
 
Second, the formalist position, that the universe needs to consist of nothing more than meaningless rules of manipulation, is exactly parallel to the mechanical picture of the phenomenal world as consisting of nothing more than configurations of structureless particles, pushed around by impressed forces.
 
The formalist position seems, on the face of it, very attractive. For, by asserting that all truth is syntactic truth, it tells us that 1. We lost no shred of mathematical truth in the process of formalization, and 2. We are automatically guaranteed that mathematics is consistent. We pay for these benefits by giving up the idea that mathematics is "about" anything, i.e., that its propositions express percepts or qualities, but on the other hand we are "informally" free to interpret these propositions in any way we want. These are, of course exactly the same attractions that the "hard" or quantitative sciences offer in the phenomenal world.
 
The celebrated Incompleteness Theorem of Gödel effectively demolished the formalist program. Basically, he showed that, no matter how one tries to formalize a particular part of mathematics (Number Theory, perhaps the innermost heart of mathematics itself), syntactic truth in the formalization does not coincide with (is narrower than) the set of truths about numbers.
 
There are many ways to look at Gödel's theorem. Indeed, the Theorem itself has provoked an enormous literature, as might be expected. For our purposes, we may regard it as follows: one cannot forget that Number Theory is about numbers. The fact that Number Theory is about numbers is essential, because there are percepts or qualities (theorems) pertaining to numbers that cannot be expressed in terms of a given, preassigned set of purely syntactic entailments. Stated contrapositively; no finite set of numerical qualities, taken as syntactical basis for Number Theory, exhausts the set of all numerical qualities.  There is always a purely semantic residue, that cannot be accommodated by that syntactical scheme.
 
Gödel's Theorem thus shows that formalizations are part of mathematics but not ALL of mathematics. Mathematics, like language itself, cannot be freed of all referents and remain mathematics. Any attempt to do this... must already fail in the Theory of Numbers.
 
On the other hand, Number Theory is still mathematics, still a system of inferential entailment in itself. It is only that it is not a purely syntactic system, not entirely a matter of word processing or symbol manipulation, independent of any external referent. In other words, Number Theory is not a closable, finite system of inferential entailment. These facts, as embodied in Gödel's Theorem, do not make us give up Number Theory as a part of mathematics nor even give up formalization as a strategy for studying certain kinds of mathematical systems. They express, rather, the limitations of formalization; it is not, as Hilbert thought, a "universal" strategy.
 
My father quoted something by S.C. Kleene, from the book "Meta-mathematics", which I didn't include here but which very succinctly illustrates the ultimate purpose this kind of thinking was trying to achieve. What they were trying to achieve was to make mathematics computable, and there was a similar drive in science to make all phenomena similarly computable. Science became equated with that notion (i.e., "it's not science if you don't formalize it into something computable"), which is what my father took issue with. As he said in the final paragraph, above, you can do a lot with that limited world, but it is not all there is. And, if you wanted to do something in mathematics that is not available from within that limited world, you can go outside that axiomatically "perfect" world and still be using mathematics. He said the same is utterly true in science.
 
Judith
PS: It was brought to my attention that I forgot, on a recent post, to delete an automatic signature that my email program puts on all email I create. It is a signature that reflects something about the times, this being an election year (and about me, I imagine)... But it is not appropriate on posts to the list and that's why I delete it before I send. I missed that one! My apologies to the list.