Re: Dr Mae-Wan Ho and i-sis.org " Definition in the SpaceTime of an Organism and in relation to Quantum theory?

[James N Rose <***>]

Hi Judith, all,

I've been a supporter of Mae Wan-Ho from before she established
here I-SIS organization, when I read an article she did for the
magazine "YES".

Her reviews of the relations between quantum and organism are,
it seems to me, an attempt to fill in some gaps in her public
worldview.   But her I-SIS efforts are strictly in line with
RR's ideas about organisms and systemics and the deficiencies
of thought that run rampant in conventional worldviews.

RR confronted his peers to challenge them to a grander holistic
comprehension.  WanHo is confronting the same narrow mind set,
but she is confronting the thinkers in industry, commerce and
politics.

For RR, science stagnates and reaches self-hobbling walls under
the old conventional sets of thoughts.  For WanHo, shortsighted
and biased thinking in the bound triumverate of money/politics/science
- where the presumptions are applied and have real repurcussions -
the very safety of the biota is at stake.  Which means that things
like Love Canal happen under the non-extensive, non-holistic,
(non_Rosenean), narrow decision criteria that's presently in place.

Essentially, there is no feedback looping (which effectively is a
real-event form of the entailment connection) in the information
network of sci-pol-economic systems, at least there is insufficient
connectivity.  Subsequent and simultaneous 'off of the model' events
happen which are as equal or more important than the model, and with
the case of GM, can have disastrous effects which cannot be fixed - ever.

True, in the over all, they will just make for a new biota where other
lifeforms may thrive, but ours suffers or dies in that evolutionary
experiment.

Oxygen was a poison to the first life on this planet, which had
an anaerobic gaia.  As more free oxygen built up in the atmosphere
and biota, those lifeforms died out and were replaced.

GM is a mechanism which opens the door to alternatives anf
metabolisms dis-cordant and in some cases wholly toxic, not just
to the life forms but to the Principles of Life itself.

At my web-site I devote several articles to the terminator gene
developed by Monsanto several years ago.

<http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/nuc/notice003.htm>
<http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/nuc/notice003b.htm>
<http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/nuc/notice003c.htm>

<http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/revered.htm>

To value commerce is important, to value organization
and control of commerce is important, but when life
is disfigured and poisoned out-of-balance because of
it, then what was the purpose of the commerce in the
first place?

Mae WanHo ventures into an interesting area with her
recent articles, but her true general systemicist
strength remains in her choice to be an advocate for
comprehensive decision making over biased accounting
decision making.

And please understand this next remark as one made from
love and respect .. Robert Rosen was a great innovative
thinker .. but he didn't (as no one does) have a primator
lock on an idea.  His detailed and delineated arguments
went further than anyone in championing the holistic paradigm
that is more real and appropriate than the planet's
current one.  He will be lauded for that in perpetuity.
Parallel thinkers are due their own niche of respect and
accomplishment however.  Don't write-off WanHo because
she came to her part of the play on her own.


Jamie