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On another list I mentioned RR and received the
included reply (I insert my post as well). I am NOT the person to 'teach' about
RR and his books are disattractive to many in
not the proper domain. (I could not read them either).
The list (as is Buck) is mostly composed of
management consultants pursuing the complexity-related ways - not in
Rosen-terms.
Anybody wants to give hints what to read, or
even hints what Rosenism could be concentrated into for econo-people? (a
personal e-mail to Buck may trickle down into the list). No deterrent communications, please! I wouldn't use to
them "impredicative", "Turing non-computable", or "anticipatory" etc.
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John,
Very interesting. Could you share more about Robert Rosen's ideas? This is news to me. Buck On Jul 16, 2004, at 4:46 PM, John M wrote: > Buck, > time for my paraphrasing - I hope it won't annoy the list. [You wrote]: >> ..." the implicate order drives living things,..."< > Order (at Bohm) is 'our knowledge' as we developed it of a system. > Implicate is the 'not yet(?) discovered' part of nature which gets > gradually into the explicate (really: order). So to understand 'living' > things we have to reach to the still unknown to understand. All our > 'implications' (intended pun) are premature, - we assume... > > I don't take Bohm's 40+ year old statements at face value within the > 'new' image just getting developed. They are good foundations. > With ideas of Robert Rosen and some very agile younger active minds on > the market, the wholistic (my _expression_ for complexity) business is in > full fleurishing. Hard to follow, because we have not even adequate words > (without historical ambigue loads attached). > > John M ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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