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Re: Relational Biology activity



Jack,
 
Thanks for those links to the papers by Leguizamon/Zaretzky and Zaretzky/Letelier. I will add those to my Web Resources page.
 
The Zaretzky/Letelier paper introduces the notion of physical and functional "boundaries" to an (M,R)-system. They base this on their idea that autopoietic systems are a subset of the class of (M,R)-systems, and that (M,R)-system models ought to have such boundaries since that is part of the definition of an autopoietic system.
 
They take metabolism ("f: A -> B") and consider that "A" must consist of elements which either come from inside or outside of a physical boundary. Separately, they define a "functional boundary" as one which encompasses the (M,R)-system itself along with the input elements which arise from outside the physical boundary. So, a "complete" (M,R)-system in their view is a model which has this functional boundary.
 
In Life Itself, Rosen's relational modeling does not contain the notion of environment, so there is no need for an explicit formal representation of boundaries. Moreover, as I see it a physical boundary qua physical boundary is a structural thing, not a functional one, and so there would not be necessity to represent it in a functional relational model. But certainly it seems that physical boundaries do perform some kind of functional role, and physical boundary qua function(s) would seem to be worth considering the possibility of adding to the model.  Whether or not physical boundaries must always encompass a realized (M,R)-system is another question altogether.
 
The  Leguizamon/Zaretzky cancer paper is unique. It is not based around relational functional organization of a cell, but around energy characteristics of cells.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
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Subject: Relational Biology activity, was re: von Neumann quote

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In some sense, it is gratifying to see that "relational biology" at google gets some 97,000 hits, though a lot of those just have the word relational (as in database) and biology in the same context. Anticipatory Systems got around 69,000 hits. Perhaps I am wrong.

While roaming about the space of Deep Ecology, I see that to be a kind of thought and behavior process, along the lines of the Gaia hypothesis, which does, indeed, involve wholistic thinking. Moving to google software of the kind that would facilitate the kinds of analysis that were included in Ionel's paper, I stumbled (a long way from here) over this URL
http://www.geometrygames.org/TorusGames/index.html
in which you are allowed to play games like tic tac toe (noughts and crosses) laying on a torus. You really have to think topologically if you wish to win such a game.

Meanwhile, back to the google search on relational biology, I stumbled (closer to home now) on this URL
http://www.worldscinet.com/jbs/08/0803/S0218339000000213.html
which Tim reviewed here: http://www.panmere.com/rosen/mhout/msg00296.html
Regrettably, that paper is at a pay per view paper. I would much prefer that our papers be published at http://www.plos.org/


Another paper at the same site
http://www.worldscinet.com/jbs/05/0501/S0218339097000084.html
is
The Algebraic Relational Theory Suggesting how to Deviate a Cancer Process
by Leguizamon and Zaretzky  1995
<quote>
It is shown how the biological reality correlates with an algebraic modification from a pseudo-Boolean structure for watering processes in normal cells up to a non-modular structure assigned to water interactions in malignant cells. A set of mathematical propositions suggests how to deviate this type of cancer process to new structures mainly maintaining those water structures resulting from the cooperativity between water molecules generated by a surface. A set of disquisitions is made: about the meaning of the change of algebra; on the dual Heyting arrow operations acting for the algebraic triggering of the cancer process; on the loss of energy in the cancer process and about the enhanced value of energy as becoming from the new structures to deviate cancer.
</quote>

and
http://www.worldscinet.com/jbs/10/1003/S0218339002000573.html
Metabolic Networks from (M,R) Systens and Autopoiesis Perspective
by Zaretzky and Letelier

<quote>
This paper is the first one of a series devoted to the analysis of metabolic networks. Its aim is to establish the theoretical framework for this analysis.
Two different lines of research are considered: the one about metabolism-repair systems ((M, R), introduced by Robert Rosen as an abstract representation of cell metabolic activity, and the concept of autopoiesis developed by Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela.
Both concepts have been recently connected by Letelier et al., determining that the set of autopoietic systems is a subset of the set of general abstract (M, R) systems. In fact, every specific (M, R) system is an autopoietic one, being the boundary, which specifies each system as a unity, the main element of autopoietic systems which is not formalized in Rosen's representation.
This paper introduces the definition of boundary - a physical boundary and a functional one - for (M, R) systems in the context of a representation using category theory.
The concept of complete (M, R) system is also introduced by means of a process of completion in categories which is functorial, natural and universal.
</quote>

Jesper Hoffmeyer (1997) argues  for a new synthesis in biology at
http://www.gypsymoth.ento.vt.edu/~sharov/biosem/hoffmeyr.html
in which he makes one reference to Rosen.

Enough for now.
Jack