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Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:03
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Subject: Re: The Rosennean Modelling
project
Ayten Aydin wrote: Among possible
triggers, certain infections, particularly viruses, vaccinations and
environmental factors can cause subtle changes in lymphocyte function that
lead to a breakdown in self-recognition by the immune
system."
I think there is much more to the vaccination aspect than simply
the process of triggering immunity to certain pathogens. It's more a question
of HOW the vaccination process is accomplished that is at fault, in my view.
The practice of using animal proteins such as eggs to grow the pathogens is
one example of muddying the water of cause and effect. There is also the
practice of using live pathogens in a weakened state to confer immunity. My
father was called upon by Jonas Salk, the creator of the killed virus polio
vaccine, to testify at a court case where Salk was being sued for causing
polio via his vaccine. My father proved using mathematics and biology, after
assessing the manufacturing process for making the vaccine, that it was much
more probable to catch polio via natural channels than via the Salk vaccine.
The Sabin (weakened virus) vaccine, however, was another matter altogether. I
find it interesting that after 20 years of using the Sabin vaccine
exclusively, Pediatric medicine has now turned back to the Salk one.
A similar story can be found in the competition between the
American DPT vaccine and the Japanese one. The American one involved horses in
such a way as to compound the other problems with the vaccine (and there were
many-- the process of making the Pertussis part of the DPT hadn't changed in
over 50 years-- it had no need to because it was proprietary). The Japanese
vaccine was much more intelligently designed and had a far lower incidence of
bad reaction in babies but the American govt was in cahoots with the American
drug company to keep the Japanese vaccine out of the country. I was able to
get my second child into a "drug study" using the Japanese vaccine after
dealing with the nasty American version with my first.
Plus, vaccines are created via the usual medical approach of
reductionism/specialization/compartmentalization that my father was discussing
in that essay I posted. I wonder how many of the autoimmune effects triggered
by vaccines would still remain if these myriad flaws were eliminated
from the process of designing and creating vaccines? I also wonder what the
"vaccination process" would be like once the human immune system were
reassessed and studied via some of my father's theoretical approaches! We
might find a far better way to confer immunities than by injecting a slurry of
dead or weakened pathogens into our bodies. Medical research has yet to
fully understand the immune system which is why I posted this "Immunilogical
Shadow Theory" of my father's in the first place. I think it sheds a lot of
light on various different aspects of what the immune system is for, how it
develops in utero, and how its strengths can be weaknesses and its weaknesses
can be strengths, and potentially fruitful ways to consider the application of
what we already know to what we want to know.
Judith