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Re: The Rosennean Modelling project



Judith,
 
If adequate number of people show interest in the area of Immune System, you may include me into the list. I do not know how much I can contribute into the research you have in mind, but the paper I am presently working is on the food connection of diseases and is primarily dealing with the Immunity-related diseases. My understanding is that the immune system is the host of an incredible number of disorders. A passage from my draft is below:
 

"Auto-immune diseases are usually chronic and cause slow, progressive damage to organs and tissues. These may be organ specific or multi-system diseases involving variety of body systems and producing complex pattern of symptoms and signs. Organ-specific disorders may involve thyroid, adrenaline gland, spleen, pancreas, stomach, liver, kidney, nerves and muscles, skin, hair, ovaries, reproduction organs etc. Among possible triggers, certain infections, particularly viruses, vaccinations and environmental factors can cause subtle changes in lymphocyte function that lead to a breakdown in self-recognition by the immune system. In normal circumstances, the immune system is a protective shield and is able to distinguish clearly between ?self? and ?non-self?. For reasons not yet clearly understood, immune system?s safety mechanisms sometimes breakdown, resulting in an auto-immune disease. Thus, the protection we enjoy from the immune system carries a cost. The following are important conditions caused by immune system activity:

Heart- alveloitis and asthma; Digestive system- Gastrointestinal and liver-coelic disease, ulcerative colitis and some form of hepatitis; Skin- contact dermatitis, pemphigus, pemphigoid and dermatitis herpetiforms; Endocrine- Addison?s disease, thyroiditis and Type I ?insulin dependent (early onset) diabetes mellitus; Ear, nose and throat- hay fever, otitis media (glue ear); Eye- uveiris, allergic conjunctivitis and keratoconjunctivitis sicca; Children diseases- atopic eczema, milk allergy, juvenile chronic arthtitis and Henoch-Schonlein purpura; Blood- pernicious anamemia, autoimmune hoemolytic anaemia and blood transfusion reactions; Reproductive- rhesus disease of newborn and infertility; Kidney- glomerulonephritis; Joints- rheumatoid arthritis, SLE and dermatomyositis; Nerves- multiple sclerosis, myasthenia gravis, polyneuritis, polymyositis, post-vaccination/post-infection, eucephalitis; Infections- immune activity is responsible for a variety of syndromes associated with tuberculosis, malaria, Chagas? disease and leprosy; General- anaphylaxis, graft rejection and serum sickness."

Good luck,

Ayten

 
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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: The Rosennean Modelling project

I've been cooking some of these ideas over the weekend. I'm going to "think out loud" as it were and see what comes together on the ideas raised so far towards creating new medical models based on Robert Rosen's Complexity Theory approach:
 
So far, the focus has been narrowed down to the area of medicine and I'd like to continue in this direction (particularly as no one else has voiced any objections or counter-suggestions). Here are my potential areas to focus our modeling exercise on:
 
One of my curiosities has been mitochondria and the role they play in genetics of human beings and in metabolism. I have done quite a bit of research on this subject and the subject is getting bigger all the time. Mitochondrial DNA has been implicated in scores of metabolic and genetic diseases, and is jointly implicated in such familiar diseases as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and Type 1 Diabetes, along with several types of cancers... stuff I would never have thought could be associated with mitochondrial DNA. The subject also plays a role in cloning, because the host egg's mitochondria stay intact when a new nucleus is inserted, Thus Dolly the sheep had "a stranger's" mitochondria. What role did that fact play in the success/failure of the project? Cells have a unique version of an internal immune system that can attack mitochondria, and I am very curious about what kinds of research have been done on mitochondrial gene therapy and whether transplanting foreign mitochondria can induce the cell's immune system to attack or if that is only a property of the larger immune system. The NIH has begun a huge funding effort to support research in this area, so it sounds to me as though my curiosity has pretty good timing. Anyone on the list want to continue down this road?
 
Another area of interest which is apparently related is that of immune system. My father had some theories on the nature of the immune system which I would like to pursue further. His ideas are in the direction of understanding autoimmune diseases, in particular. I'm willing to share his theories with the list as long as I can protect the copyright issue (I can't "patent" a theory, apparently, but if we generate something that is patentable, I want to make sure that my father's name is included, etc). This particular subject might have to be conducted "off-list" amongst interested subscribers if the legalities specify that by posting these theories, I give up copyright of them. (Tim, do you know anything about this issue?).
 
A third area that my father had a lot of ideas in was embryology and differentiation of cells, etc. So I would be interested in pursuing research into that area with an eye towards seeing what kind of modeling protocols we can generate using Rosennean approaches.
 
A final one is apropos the recent discussions on Anticipation. I want to delve deeper into what this "internal predictive model" consists of and how it is encoded into an organism. I see that the implications of this have a lot to say about everything from aging to ecosystem management, etc. Anticipation is one of the basic concepts connected to complexity at the dimension of living organisms, so I don't see how ecologists can hope to model ecosystem behavior in the light of climate change, etc, without a better understanding of this feature of organisms.
 
Any ideas from the group? Preferences? Suggestions?
 
Judith