Re: Teleology and vitalism

[Ayten Aydin <***>]

John M,
Thank you for your comments. With my definition of 'abstracting', I did not
mean reductionist modelling. It may be a linguistic problem on my side. I
meant as a first step actual or virtual action towards grasping the whole.
On the other hand I must admit that we look into the matter differently.
There is a difference between yours and mine. You define abstracting as "
the capability (and process) of comparing the not-so-identical members of a
pattern - recognizing the pattern as such, and finding the common features
in them. So an abstraction would duly identify a pattern by its
characteristic - and all included - features while disregarding the
individual differences not preventing the pattern issue." This is an
interesting way of looking to abstraction which, to my mind,  prepares the
ground for integration. I liked that. Am I right interpreting it this way?
Ayten

----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message -----
From: "John M" <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Teleology and vitalism


> Ayten,
> isn't your
> >... I did interprete abstracting as picking a
> > piece out of something, a bigger whole, such as an art work or a
> scientific
> > discovery.<
> indeed a reductionist modeling (at whim or some boundary condition)?
> I took the more profound meaning of 'abstraction' when imposing it into
> human development that lead to language communication:
> I figured that abstracting is the capability (and process) of comapring
the
> not-so-identical members of a pattern - recognizing the pattern as such,
> and finding the common features in them. So an abstraction would duly
> identify a pattern by its chatacteristic - and all included - features
while
> disregarding the individual differences not preventing the pattern issue.
>
> John M
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ayten Aydin" <***>
> To: <***>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Teleology and vitalism
>
>
> > Tim,
> > Thank you for your clarification.
> SNIP
> > My best,
> > Ayten
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Gwinn" <***>
> > To: <***>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Teleology and vitalism
> > SNIP
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tim
> > >
>
>