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Re: Howard's challenge



OK, but I think you have to add that it is not a strict equavence with
observable conditions (states). With that, yes, I also see it as a fully
embodied realism.
JJK

James N Rose wrote:

John Kineman wrote:


Software is fully specified and computable and exists in a 1:1
(non-complex) relationship with encoding structures, unless you consider
the whole software writing exercise as a social phenomenon, i.e.,
including the programmer in the system being modeled. Did von Neumann do
that?? It is the same argument as that for Goedellian incompleteness,
that completeness can only be achieved by including the mathematician.




There is another alternative: that the machine is the programmer/mathematician. (that the hardware is the software).

This is the internal qualitative criteria that makes
  the Rosenean 'natural universe' real - and operantly so.

It is the essential first-qualia of the universe - depicted
  in my Integrity Paradigm.

Jamie



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