Re: Horizontal scrolling

[Ayten Aydin <***>]

On Judith's messages: need for horizontal scrolling;
I have no problem with Judith's messages. They appear on my screen exactly
as your message has appeared. I can read both with the same ease. Could the
problem be on your side?
Aydin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Athel Cornish-Bowden" <***>
To: <***>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:07 PM
Subject: Horizontal scrolling


Sorry that my first message to this group should be concerned with a
technicality rather than with Rosen's ideas, but there it is.

I find it virtually impossible to read Judith's messages until they have
been quoted by someone else, because they come out with an enormously wide
window. The last one, "Another excerpt on modelling", requires horizontal
scrolling even if I put it on a giant window 2624 pixels wide spanning the
total width of two monitors! I think the problem lies in the parameter shown
as the Content-type. For example, messages rom Dan Fiscus include a header
that reads

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

whereas Judith's messages say

Content-Type:    multipart/alternative;

As Judith appears to be using Outlook Express she may be stuck with whatever
microsoft have decided is best, but maybe not. Are there other OE users who
know how to configure it to send intelligible messages? It might be just a
matter of setting it to send plain text and not HTML.  Alternatively, does
anyone know how to set the ListServ servers so that it sends intelligible
pages regardless of how it receives the text? Choosing "Non-proportional
font" at the top of the age sometimes helps, but sometimes it makes things
worse (as in the particular case quoted).

Incidentally, sending HTML in messages wastes enormous amounts of
band-width. Judith's message on "Another excerpt on modelling" contains 3378
characters of actual information, but what gets transmiited through space is
9584 characters, because it's packed full of garbage like

The lessons from biology turned out to be that "adaptiveness?, while
useful in economic systems,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>is
not
universally good; too much of it, in the wrong places, will tear cooperative
structures apart. </FONT></EM></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><EM><FONT
size=3></FONT></EM></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><EM><FONT
size=3>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, ...

Even if you choose not to see all this garbage it's still there: it still
gets transmitted over the net, and it still needs to be processed in some
way when it gets to your computer.

I'll try to have something more interesting to say the next time I post.

athel