Re: Free-will

["Judith Rosen" <***>]

Guys,

 

Anticipatory Systems refers to physical systems that have an "internal predictive model", as my father described it, which is what causes the anticipatory behavior. Volitional systems are different. In fact, he was criticized when Anticipatory Systems came out for confusing scientific phenomena with human thought patterns, or rather "polluting" science by anthropomorphizing organisms like a tree. Anticipatory systems have no volition in their anticipatory behavior, whatsoever. Whether volitional systems are also anticipatory is another question. The two are completely, distinctly different things.

 

Judith

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Kineman" <***>

To: <***>

Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: [ROSEN] Free-will

> Tim, this is a surprising 
development! I would not have thought #3 to be
> distinct from 
anticipatory systems.
> 
> JK
> 
> Tim Gwinn 
wrote:
> 
> >
> >P.S. - I should add that included in 
the unpublished manuscript "Rosennean
> >Complexity" that Judith has 
for sale, is a letter dated 10/7/1998 (making it
> >later than any of 
his published books) in which RR refers to three (!) types
> >of 
systems: 1) natural systems, 2) formal systems, and 3) volitional 
systems
> >("the category of systems involving judgement or volition" 
p. 7). These
> >comments are in the context of his describing his 
development of - what
> >seems to me to be - a very profound 
generalized mapping model for _any_
> >system.
> >
> 
>
> >