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2nd Law and Ecosystems



"Stanley N. Salthe" wrote [Complex-M list]:
>
> John K said:
> >
> >Does the "why" perhaps relate to why this particular
> >pattern and not another that is equally (or perhaps
> >more) likely with respect to physical laws? Again,
> >the human reasons for the pattern cannot be
> >represented or predicted from the physical laws,

>      SS: But physical laws are only abstractions
> from the physical world.  Actual physical systems
> are much more than laws -- mostly various constraints
> on the laws, mediating their effects into the
> actual world.

Then here are questions for you, Stan.  How would you
place or map the following, according to the statements
and categorizations you just made?

Is gravity an abstracted physical law or a constraint?

Is 'gravity' present once in a system of n bodies,
or present n times?

[These are not facetious or trivial questions.  They
lead the logical investigator to a fundamentally
profound shift in comprehending 'relationship'. They
lead to a huge conceptual paradigm shift in
differential defining of 'subjective' and 'objective'.
But please, first, I am anxious to read your answers
to the specific questions.  Thanks, Stan.]

Jamie