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Re: Time and change



Tim and Pete,
I have not seen such a meaningful post for a long time.
(It was also exciting to 'personalize' the colorfulness since both of you used several colors, for a partially colorblind) but the contents are clear and seem right. Well expressed also.
I wanted to barge in when I got to the part where Tim wrote the same position very adequately. Also Pete's arguments echoed in
my mind reasonably with one questionable point (which extended later into Tim's parts as well): the assumption that "y" is time.
I called space and time "crutches" of the reductionistic himan mind to 'organize' the details we can observe.
I still struggle with 'words' how to formulate 'changes' and 'processes' without a timely sequence (eliminating cause totally from a deterinistic system) - maye not the words proper - the images as well. Our human mind has to be raped to 'think' in the 'No Timely Sequence' process/change, some variable potential of interaction going 'anyway' as incoming qualities require.
 
I apologize for being in a maze nowadays preventing me from the lear composing of ideas. I may come back later, maybe I need less spam in my mailbox or more relaxed sleep.
Anyway, I would like to read Pete's "longer" text as well.
 
With best personal regards
 
John Mikes
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Gwinn
To: ***
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Time and change

Hi Pete et al,
 
You make some excellent points regarding my musings on "fundamental" qualities. My post yesterday (10/25/03) on time and impredicativity further squashes that line of thinking that I was engaged in.
 
Several other comments interposed below in teal color.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ROSEN Forum [mailto:***On Behalf Of Pete Giansante
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:38 AM
To: ***
Subject: Re: Time and change

Hi Boys & Girls:

Here are some random responses. A more integrated message is still cooking:
Tim Gwinn wrote:
-------- Original Message --
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That is a good snip to truncate the rest.