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Re: Function and functional organization



John M,
 
Good points. I agree. And good timing, too! I just posted a message back to JohnK which (I hope) will lead to sorting out our "material" differences. :)
 
I hope that the latter part of my post addresses some of the concern you mention. As to the larger picture ("Besides "material reality" is what we think so."), that always lurks in the back of my mind. I wish it would go away....life would be so much simpler. :)
 
Regards,
Tim
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ROSEN Forum [mailto:***On Behalf Of John M
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Function and functional organization

Sorry, Tim and JohnK,
 
I stayed out so far of the endless back-and-forth over the past weeks but now I have a remark:
 
Tim, you emphasize material reality, in your bold text.
John, you emphasize material vs. nonmaterial .
 
I formulated earlier the weak point of the "Aris-total" (more than the sum of its parts) as the imperfection in his (timely) views regarding a total as the sum of the material parts ONLY. Omitting functions and qualia of the assemblage, connections and influences. The 'more'.
Since then somebody suggested a word we should not forget: I think it is "complexity", and Judith may second my notion <G>
 
It is remarkable how you go into the fine details of ideas, but beware of falling into a highly reductionistic view about dissecting things into arbitrary models without combining and replenishing them .
Besides "material reality" is what we think so. Models and simulacra. There is a danger to draw conclusions from intermediate arguments.
 
Just a caveat, I like to read your wisdom.
 
John M