Re: Newsgroups> a small suggestion...

["Tim Gwinn" <***>]

Welcome to the group Juan!....or should I say "Juan Carlos"?.....or
"Juan-Carlos"? Which is proper? Please excuse my ignorance.

I enjoyed your JTB paper greatly. It was very helpful to me, especially
since I have not read any of M&V's work directly.

Can you suggest what M&V papers/books might be most useful to a Rosenite,
like myself, looking to understand more about autopoiesis?

Regards,
Tim

P.S. - For those interested, I also wanted to mention a link to some papers
by Tatsuya Nomura (cited in the JTB paper) regarding autopoiesis and Rosen:
 http://www.hannan-u.ac.jp/~nomura/docs.html


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROSEN Forum [mailto:*** Behalf Of
> Juan-Carlos Letelier
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:19 PM
> To: ***
> Subject: Newsgroups> a small suggestion...
>
>
> Hello,
>         Concerning the request of "other" groups interested in complexity
> ideas (and notions from Dr. Robert Rosen) I have a small suggestion:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autopoiesis-dialognet/
>
> This newsgroup discusses the notion of AUTOPOIESIS a most interesting idea
> created by two rather non-trivial personalities (Humberto Maturana &
> Francisco Varela).  Autopoiesis and (M,R) systems are notions that are
> very closely related (see http://archonic.net/wm01a05.pdf or Journal of
> Theoretical Biology (2003) Vol=222;pp 261-272 "Autopoietic and (M,R)
> Systems")
>
> As it is usual with newsgroups the interests and point of views of the
> participants reflect a wide spectrum.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Juan Carlos Letelier
> ***
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